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User Talk:Doug Weller

The current date and time is 5 August 2021 T 21:06 UTC.

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An insource search for the spam link they posted led me to this: User:Jimsorzo/Hank Kunneman --PaleoNeonate - 19:18, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Interesting. Bad article but he looks notable. Doug Weller talk 19:46, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Very possible, the sources in it didn't convince me and are suboptimal of course, --PaleoNeonate - 19:55, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Oh I completely agree, but a search suggested he may have had enough need coverage. Doug Weller talk 19:57, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, I don't intend to work on this myself and it's stale, so I think that I'll forward it at BLPN for any interested person to move to draft or mainspace and improve, --PaleoNeonate - 20:14, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Done, --PaleoNeonate - 20:19, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

The Signpost: 25 July 2021

Advice on ANI

Dear Doug, you may have seen that last week at ANI two editors (one of them me) proposed sanctions against MfactDr, after a period of him once more stepping way out of line with his disruptive POV editing. I think that at least I presented a good case that something needed to happen. In the beginning there was a little bit of back and forth between MfactDr and the two OPs, but beyond that nobody else contributed anything to that discussion, until the case died in the archives today. There wasn't even anyone telling me that my case was weak or badly presented or even frivolous - there was just no reaction (and certainly no action) at all. In terms of the matter that may be okay, as I can see that under the impression of being dragged to ANI MfactDr has calmed down significantly, has even taken steps to improve his behavior, such as archiving his talk page now instead of just deleting all the warnings. If he sticks to that for a while I will be quite happy. So my question to you is more what I can learn from this experience.

This was the first time I brought something to ANI, so maybe I'm disappointed about something that is actually quite normal - should I expect things to be ignored at ANI and contact administrators directly, as I have done in the past, sometimes approaching you or Cordless Larry? Whenever I did that, you usually acted swiftly. Presenting a case at ANI certainly took a lot more preparation, and I wasted a lot of time watching the ANI page for something to happen (and got sidetracked that way into another discussion). Or should I instead go directly to AE, because technically MfactDr violated the Horn-of-Africa DS? Or should I rather refrain from any attempts to get sanctions invoked against editors such as him or David S Gondaria, who is in every respect MfactDr's counterpart from a different ethnic perspective? Whatever advice you can give, I will take it to heart. LandLing 06:20, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

@Landroving Linguist: it's one of those subjects that few people are familiar with, and that's a major problem. Then it's a bit complex. You presented a good detailed case but on the other hand you were too frank with your opinions of other editors. Try to always take the high road on talk pages - that's help me a lot in the decades I've been on the internet arguing with fringe editors. Finally, if it's an area under discretionary sanctions and the editor has been warned, go to AE, you'll always get more attention there. Just make sure your case is good. I'm sorry I haven't participated but I've stepped back a little from resource to deal with real life, some routine stuff, some not so routine (I've been diagnosed as having early subtle symptoms of Parkinson's). Doug Weller talk 13:58, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Oh, that's a much more serious thing than your recent root-canal treatment - I have friends with the same diagnosis rather early in their lives, and from what I know about them, telling that you are somewhat distracted by this is going to be a severe understatement. I wish you all the strength you need in order to be able to deal with that situation! And I hope that you have a good support network in real life, which will make things a lot easier.
Thanks also for your advice. Yes, you are right about my tendency to chose the wrong words - I still need to learn that being sarcastic doesn't help to win people over to becoming good editors, and I need to work harder on resisting all temptations at being rude towards editors that do something annoying. For now I will walk away from the MfactDr case, hoping that he learns from this as much as I did. In similar situations I will next time try my luck at AE. Best wishes, and take care, LandLing 14:35, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Sorry to hear about your frustrating experience, Landroving Linguist - and about your health issues, Doug. LandLing, I'm not that active at AN/I but I sense that uninvolved editors might have been put off from engaging by the back-and-forth between Dawit S Gondaria and MfactDr following the former's initial report and then the wall of text that MfactDr posted in response to your post. When the dispute already seems complicated to uninvolved editors, then a blow-by-blow replaying of it at AN/I is likely to further discourage engagement, and sadly this often seems to happen in response to reports there. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:04, 28 July 2021 (UTC)


@Landroving Linguist and Cordless Larry: thanks. I'm lucky in that I've only recently started on my Parkinson's journey at 78, and am pretty healthy - walk 15,000 steps a day, do Pilates twice a week via YouTube with an expert who tailors it for me and my wife, etc. So I'm not terribly worried. Doug Weller talk 14:23, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Sorry to read this. I just turned 78 myself, but, so far, just the usual old age stuff. And here I was proud of my 12,000 steps a day! May the Parkinson's hold off and your health remain good! - Donald Albury
Sing your Song, Doug. It's the beautiful sound of your life. Look after yourself and keep moving as you are. Those steps and exercises will come in handy. I have full confidence in your ability and I agree that there is nothing to be worried about. That only zaps your energy. Know I am sending you positive thoughts and thanks for all you have done and continue to do when able.--ARoseWolf 19:38, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
@Donald Albury and ARoseWolf: Thanks. My Pilates is going to help and there are Parkinson's videos for vigorous aerobics and Parkinson's Pilates. I like the slogans "Nothing scares me, I've got Parkinson's" and "I've got Parkinson's but Parkinson's doesn't have me". Doug Weller talk 14:30, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
For some reason, those slogans remind me of something I was found of saying some 55 years ago when I was in the Army, "What are they going to do, send me to Vietnam?" - Donald Albury 17:27, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
Hope you don't mind the intrusion - I noticed the above on my watchlist. Doug, my hopes and prayers are with you. (Good on you for the 15000 steps a day by the way - you've got a couple of decades on me, but you're putting me to shame!) Girth Summit (blether) 17:55, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
I love those slogans. You'll do just fine. :) --ARoseWolf 13:17, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
@Girth Summit: thanks. Exercise is vital, particularly at the early state where I am. I'm optimistic. Doug Weller talk 14:12, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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